Out of Occupy, a New Populist Political Party Forms

Print Friendly

Carl Gibson, co-founder of U.S. Uncut, is joining with other Occupy Wall Street organizers to launch a new populist political party. While more details (including the name of the party and the identities of other key organizers) will be available when the group launches on March 20, the party will be explicitly anti-capitalist.

Says Gibson: “A new party that actively opposes capitalism and unites people around the basic ideas of meeting human needs would be widely respected and immediately acknowledged. This new party could stand apart from the two corporate-owned parties by refusing to take campaign donations from corporations, banks and developers, standing up for the rights of immigrants and indigenous people, calling for sustainable energy and development, making education for all a top priority, and believing in universal access to healthcare as a human right. While it would take time, focusing on building power first at the local and county level is the surest way to make lasting change.”

In this interview with Resistance Report host Dennis Trainor, Jr., Gibson acknowledged that the Green Party is already working along a parallel path, but feels his (soon to be launched) party will do a better job of engaging young people and focusing on local politics as a way to build power.

  • Pingback: Out of Occupy, a New Populist Political Party Forms | A Political Statement

  • Pingback: Out of Occupy, a New Populist Political Party Forms | Acronym TV

  • Pingback: Out of Occupy, a New Populist Political Party Forms | CITIZEN

  • HoldenLitgo

    May as well just hand the keys to the reactionaries. This is as much a gift to the Fascist Fundamentalist mental cases as a Sarah Palin run for president would be to progressives. It’s the end of the world as we know it, the beginning of an American Tealiban Theocracy.

  • Netby Force

    Hey H Litgo- Yeah yeah! and why abolish slavery pre 1808, dont rock the British empire in India in 1857 and ask the ANC to shut up and behave. Every corrective action has a beginning somewhere and it aint always pretty. More grease to your elbows and arrows in your quiver Occupy. You are on the right treack.

  • Travlingypsy

    You are not the first person to come up with this. I wonder why we keep creating a new wheel instead of hooking up with the wheel that has already been rolling. I don’t agree that we have to smash anything. That is thinking just like the people who want to smash us. Not a good way to proceed.

  • il corvo

    How would this new party significantly differ from the Green Party? The Green party has name recognition, and an international infra-structure. I am not a staunch Green Party advocate, even though I voted for Jill Stein in the last election, but fragmenting the independent voter options will just dilute voting and the influence for national recognition. Fragmenting works for the Ruling Class, always has and always will. My suggestion is to negotiate with the Green Party for platform changes and operate under one banner.

    • MrBadExample

      I have great respect for the EUROPEAN green parties. Their US counterparts couldn’t organize sit-down brunch for four. NY state has a contentious group of hangers-on whose focus on conspiracy theory and false bromides makes it impossible to work with the more sane people in the movement. Howie Hawkins made a run for the governorship here, and actually polled well. But many Greens here thought it was a ‘mistake’ to run for public office. That, plus the lack of money, made it impossible to get traction. Better for Gibson to start out with a blank slate.

      • Mason Fisher

        Yeah, I went to a interest meeting for forming a local Green Party chapter here in WA state. I was the only person there under 50. It did not bode well.

        • il corvo

          I also went to a Green Party rally in WA state and it was mobbed with young people. The rally for Jill Stein was also held at Evergreen College. I haven’t gone to others and you might be right but demographics is everything. Older folks have more time and will work very hard.

          • Mason Fisher

            I should mention this was in Eastern WA state, which, unfortunately, is not exactly a hotbed of political progressivism. If the chapter gets organized enough to send someone down to Pullman/Moscow (which was what I was kind of hoping for), that might help with the demographics.

      • il corvo

        What happened to Rocky Anderson’s Freedom Party after the last election, it failed and disappeared. What makes you think the Mr. Gibson and his people will be better organized? I agree with you on the organizational abilities of the Green Party and the exclusive image that they project. My problem is the fragmentation of like minded people.

        • MrBadExample

          I don’t think I knew Anderson was running. I did vote for Stein, even though it’s hard for me to take the Greens seriously. A larger point (that I made elsewhere in the thread): even if the left got organized and all coalesced around one candidate, there is no advancing in an electoral system post Citizens United. The billionaire class is able to dump hundreds of millions into the process and perfectly capable of doing so.

          • il corvo

            With enough signatures a candidate could be put on the ballot in states and also possibly become part of the debates, thus get exposure. If not then the only way to change things is issue by issue or overthrowing the system. It will be interesting what practical objectives this new party will come up with. My thing is encouraging people to learn to think coherently, work in their communities in any way they can, and begin to see that a paradigm shift must start with each one of us. Thanks for the response Senor.

        • http://mosquitocloud.net/ aprescoup

          Anderson was Gov. Moonbeam in the making.

          I even wonder if the Greens are not just there to diffuse the “radicalizing” left.

      • luannekozma

        We Greens can absolutely organize a sit-down brunch for four. In fact, a Green organized 600 volunteers statewide to gather 70,000 signatures to ban fracking in Michigan, and the Green Party of Michigan is one of the initiative’s biggest backers.

        • MrBadExample

          Well Boo-Yah for the Michigan Greens for organizing a petition drive. That’s actually better than the NY Greens have done. The local party ‘leadership’ apparently is too busy arguing over HIV theories, chemtrails and 9/11 conspiracies (“the planes were HOLOGRAMS, Man”) to put people on the street. Maybe it’s not fair to tar all state green parties for what I’ve seen in NY. But NY being the media capital of the nation (if not the world), the NY crazies set the media narrative of what the Greens are about nationwide.

    • http://www.WelzerGreenCampaign.org Steve Welzer

      I agree. The fragmentation is counterproductive. Rocky Anderson was the last to feel that he couldn’t possibly work within an existing alternative structure. He’s gotten nowhere trying to (again) start something from scratch. Message to Carl and Rocky: It’s not easy to build an alternative and have it endure. We’ve seen so many “come and gone” … Citizens Party, Rainbow Coalition, New Party, Labor Party, Natural Law Party, etc. With an international presence, at least we know that the Green Party is here to stay. Rather than taking on the hard work of engaging with other electoral activists (no two of whom will ever fully agree) people vote for a Jill Stein but then stay aloof and carp: “The Green Party doesn’t have it quite right ideologically, they’re lousy organizers, they don’t run enough candidates, they don’t do enough direct action, they have too much contention, they’re not diverse enough.” What I hear is: “The Green Party is imperfect and I’m not personally comfortable there so I’ll just start something else. I’ll fragment the movement a little more.”

      • il corvo

        Thanks for your comment Steve and this is what came up for me as I read it.
        I voted for Jill in ’12 because I felt like change has to start someplace. Each national election the Dem/Reps squeeze out all voices of decent and true choice. The Dems. were smart in calling Obama the “lesser of two evils”. It got folks scared, once again, and he got the votes. The truth was it was actually an illusion of choice. Most people I talked to associated the Green party with Nader and never heard of Stein. My suggestions would be to start now to get the Greens in the debates, partition the DAR to once again run them, recruit a candidate like Margaret Flowers who comes across as more self confident and less reactionary, create bridges with splinter groups that are looking at real change and appeal to all people not just to the poor and the independent voter.

        Black vs. White, Gays vs. Straights, Poor vs, Middle class, Males vs. Females. All of this and more keeps the masses fragmented and under the control of the 1%. When one asks how can a few thousand people control millions, this aspect of identification with a minority group is the way. When the masses see this fact, they might just say, ‘what is it that we all share?’ It is then that there will be an uprising that is creative rather than destructive.

        • PaulK2

          I voted for Jill in ’12 because my state was in the bag already. Drinking habits aside,…

    • http://www.ccrider27.com/ ccrider27

      Exactly.

      And then there’s the Kshama Sawant Socialist Alternative Party.

      So with the Greens and Rocky Anderson’s Party that makes 3 ways to split the progressive vote.

      Sometimes I wonder if Karl Rove isn’t working this in the background.

      Certainly one should vote for any one of these where neither of the others are present.

      But wouldn’t it be nice if we could have a ‘summit’ and put egos aside?

      Guess that’s just dreaming.

      Tell me where I sign up to help with any of the above.

      • il corvo

        You got it my friend!

      • http://mosquitocloud.net/ aprescoup

        I’d love to see libertarians, a seemingly more cohesive group – not the Libertarian party libertarians, necessarily – participate is such a summit.

      • Nylene13

        SA has the Sawant victory going for it. I say that is the way to go, but what -ever it takes for We The People to be united against the rich.

        Green Socialist Party.

        • http://www.ccrider27.com/ ccrider27

          “united” being the operative word, thought and deed…

      • Nylene13

        Socialist Alternative-online.
        New groups are forming in cities beyond Washington state….

  • Proudscalawag

    I have a question: do indigenous people stop being indigenous after, say, fifteen centuries mostly in exile or don’t they? If not, then who we consider ‘indigenous’ to the Holy Land will need re-evaluating.

    • DoubleCheck

      Moreover, these “indigenous” people are genetically Italian, so maybe we could give them Vatican City as a new homeland.

      • Proudscalawag

        Some have Italian DNA but nearly all have Hebrew, aka Israelite, aka ‘Jewish’ DNA markers. Google the studies; they can be found online.

        • DoubleCheck

          The one study I had read before said Italian, but a search on the subject shows that you’re right.

          • Proudscalawag

            Thanks. I appreciate your acknowledgement and I hope, as progressives, we’re all open to new info coming our way. I understand it to be one of the traits which differentiates us from them other folks.

      • Jo Patterson

        I thought people indigenous to the US are Native American, followed by now-indigenous Europeans et al.

        • DoubleCheck

          Look at the context of what Proudscalawag said. He was talking about those indigenous to the Holy Land.

  • MrBadExample

    While I’d agree that the US has need of another party (and as somebody who’s followed the Green party since the early 80′s, I can’t dispute their lack of focus), I think the political system is toast. Thanks to Citizens United, the emphasis on big money is going to grow. And overturning Citizens United by a constitutional amendment (which is what liberal democrats like Al Franken are pushing) would in best-case be a decade or two away. You’d have to get two-thirds liberal democrats in both houses plus the White House, plus 3/4 of state legislatures. When you have the billionaire class willing to dump hundreds of millions into the political process to advance their agenda, the heavy lifting may be impossible. And that assumes the Dems stay focused on it. It’s time for people to be in the streets.

  • David Petrovich

    To my knowledge, the Green Party is not anti-capitalist. Though it advocates against the consequences of capitalism, it calls for its reform, not its abolition and replacement. It employs a “fix from within” idealogy. It is not revolutionary when revolution is scientifically indicated. There are political parties who advocate a peaceful revolution and I am all in favor of uniting under a common banner of solidarity.

    • Mason Fisher

      I dunno, the Green Shadow Cabinet (which is kind-of-sort-of affiliated with the US GP) seems pretty anti-capitalist. Given how decentralized the GP is, though, YMMV.

      • David Petrovich

        The Green Shadow Cabinet specifically states it is not affiliated with any political party. There is no beating around the bush: you are either in favor for the continuation of capitalism as a social/political/economic system, or not in favor of it. History has shown that reforms are short term band-aid fixes when surgery is indicated. There may be individuals in the Green Shadow Cabinet, and individuals in the GP who advocate against capitalism… but as organizations? Reformers. Prove me wrong. Please prove me wrong.

        • http://www.WelzerGreenCampaign.org Steve Welzer

          Corporate capitalism as a globalized system is pernicious and the Greens clearly state that they want to subvert it. But the globalized capitalist system is not the same thing as localized private enterprise. Here is relevant verbiage from the 2000 version of the national Green Party Platform (section IV. ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY, part A. ECO-NOMICS, item 2): “Community-based economics constitutes an alternative to both corporate capitalism and state socialism. It is very much in keeping with the Greens’ valuation of diversity and decentralization. Recognition of limits is central to a Green economic orientation. The drive to accumulate power and wealth must become recognized for what it is, a pernicious characteristic of a civilization headed, ever more rapidly, in a pathological direction. Greens advocate that economic relations become more direct, more cooperative, and more egalitarian. Humanizing economic relations is just one aspect of our broader objective: to consciously and deliberately (albeit gradually) shift toward a different way of life — characterized by sustainability, regionalization, a more harmonious balance between the natural ecosphere and the human-made technosphere, and a revival of community life. Our communitarian perspective is antithetical to both Big Business and Big Government. It distinguishes the Greens and will enable us to make a unique contribution toward deriving political and economic solutions for the 21st century.”

          • Rustyhank

            To understand more fully the economic principles advocated by the Green Party, I recommend that all of us become familiar with the scholarly and down-to-earth practical approach of David C. Korten, to the elimination of Wall St. phantom wealth and the re-invigoration of real Main St, wealth under local democratic control representing the cooperative interests of business, labor, the environment and the public commons. There are many practical steps that local communities could take to break the influence of global predatory capitalism and its monopolistic banking system by establishing local credit unions, purchasing goods and supplies from local farmers and manufacturers, establishing state banks like the one in North Dakota, buying for cash or local scrip and establishing cooperatives where needed for more complex operations of manufacturing and distribution of goods. Re-establish local municiple control of water, gas and electric power. water, sewerage, schools, hospitals, voting booths, etc. This is not a battle between capitalism and socialism in its extreme but a blending of the the benefits of business for reasonable profits to serve the local community and and full protection of the commons for the people under local democratic control. For starters, i recommend that interested persons read the latest Korten book. “The Agenda for a New Economy….” B-K Publishers, 2009 available from all book sellers. This is a dialog worthy of the attention of any third party movement to offer practical solutions to our faltering economic and social democratic institutions. Your comments are invited and they can be relayed to David C.Korten’s website for further elaboration and insight. We, the people have the means and right to design and implement a way of life that benefits the many rather than the few.

    • http://www.WelzerGreenCampaign.org Steve Welzer

      Corporate capitalism as a globalized system is pernicious and the Greens clearly state that they want to subvert it. But the globalized capitalist system is not the same thing as localized private enterprise. Here is relevant verbiage from the 2000 version of the national Green Party Platform (section IV. ECONOMIC SUSTAINABILITY, part A. ECO-NOMICS, item 2): “Community-based economics constitutes an alternative to both corporate capitalism and state socialism. It is very much in keeping with the Greens’ valuation of diversity and decentralization. Recognition of limits is central to a Green economic orientation. The drive to accumulate power and wealth must become recognized for what it is, a pernicious characteristic of a civilization headed, ever more rapidly, in a pathological direction. Greens advocate that economic relations become more direct, more cooperative, and more egalitarian. Humanizing economic relations is just one aspect of our broader objective: to consciously and deliberately (albeit gradually) shift toward a different way of life — characterized by sustainability, regionalization, a more harmonious balance between the natural ecosphere and the human-made technosphere, and a revival of community life. Our communitarian perspective is antithetical to both Big Business and Big Government. It distinguishes the Greens and will enable us to make a unique contribution toward deriving political and economic solutions for the 21st century.”

  • ed2291

    The Green Party is the biggest real progressive party and an excellent place to start. Having said that, it has some fundamental issues it needs to solve to grow. There are
    many Obots in the GP who vote repeatedly for and volunteer for democrats
    because it is the “lesser of two evils.” (LOTE) Many use the Green Party to freshen up their resume and then campaign actively with democrats. The Green Party also tends to isolate itself and not cooperate or even return communication with other organizations or candidates. Many GP candidates do not even have websites or good contact information. Recently I tried contacting all the GP US HOR candidates to offer them support by the New Progressive Alliance. Two (out of 435 openings for office in 2014) had good contact points. A good starting point for the GP would be to support all those candidates that support the GP’s 10 values if there is no GP candidate. Good luck with that. I could not even get the National GP website to list a GP candidate in Georgia despite 7 months of effort and repeated attempts to communicate.

    • http://mosquitocloud.net/ aprescoup

      Great points!

    • Ralphdd

      Where is the GP now when it is quiet with the other two parties? They should be out making hay while the sun is shining but IMO they are satisfied to sit back and keep their powder dry. When the campaign starts in earnest the noise from the two major parties will drown out anything they imagined to say. I am glad so many of the posters have contacted the GP to see what they are about. IMO they have some great ideas but they are not ready yet. It seems that many of their chapters are satisfied being a protest party with no real drive to win. I offered my services as a publicist to my state party but it seemed they weren’t interested.
      I had some ideas for publicity without a price tag such as radio and tv talk show locally and volunteering to clear litter from a highway to have your name posted on that highway. Not to mention charity events and parades and such. Right now is when they should be out selling their message they lay low like a rug.
      I am all for another party. The more times you try the greater chance you have of being a success.

  • Pingback: Out of Occupy, a New Populist Political Party Forms | PopularResistance.Org | WealthShare Society

  • Vic Coffield

    I would hope this new party
    focuses on organizing us on the ground level rather than spending a
    lot of time and effort competing with the Democrats in State and
    National elections. And when I say organizing us on the ground I mean
    getting us meeting across issues at the local level to promote an
    anti capitalist agenda that we can take to the broad base of
    suffering Americans. Winning for us now is when our anti-capitalist
    Party grows at the grassroots level. We don’t necessarily win when we
    get someone elected to office. At best we get a little more voice.
    But without a growing the organized grassroots movement we are simply
    an empty shell. We win when we grow by getting folks to come to
    meeting on a consistent basis. We need the foreclosure fighters, the
    global warming activists, the teachers and students who fight for
    control of education, and those who fight for livable wages to get to
    know and trust each other while working out a national strategy. We
    need to know that the efforts we make to get folks to come to the
    meeting of this new Party will not be discouraged by ego trippers and
    windbag ideologues that all too often ruin meeting. The political
    isolation of most Americans has left us with some very bad meeting
    skills. Learning how to structure exciting and productive meetings,
    the struggle to reach agreement within an open grassroots
    organization and then figure out how to win the attention and trust
    of working families that need this movement will not be easy. We will
    need practice. We win by growing the grassroots!
    So “Organize Occupy!”

    • ed2291

      “I would hope this new party focuses on organizing us on the ground level rather than spending a lot of time and effort competing with the Democrats in State and National elections.”

      I could not disagree more. This gives the democrats a free pass for all their many betrayals. It is not difficult to run in one of the 435 districts for the HOR open every 2 years, even if the only object is to make a point. Finally, if we “wait until” anything it ensures we will never be fully ready. Look at Jill Stein who was able to get issues forward that she would not have as a local candidate.

      Do we still need to organize locally? Absolutely! Is Occupy a necessary component of real change? Absolutely! We also just need to compete at all levels.

  • PaulK2

    I want a new election method, one resistant to corruption. For starters I recommend the Cambridge, Massachusetts Single Transferable Vote system. As long as we’re stuck with the old 51% rules, 49% fools system we’re going to perpetually get two evils to vote for the lesser of. They’ll call the third candidate “the spoiler” and it will be true, within the framework of two-candidate mudslinging TV-ad dollar elections.

  • Pingback: Out of Occupy, a New Populist Political Party Forms | PopularResistance.Org » SanDiegoHerb.com: An HFN Affiliate

  • Tarit Chakraborty

    If they need a political buffoon, ask them to call me

  • Pingback: Out of Occupy, a New Populist Political Party Forms | Occupy Movement

  • Pingback: Out of Occupy, a New Populist Political Party Forms | Movement Building

  • Joseph A. Mungai

    Instead of splitting up votes amongst the anti-capitalist/ant-imperialist/socialist parties, maybe Carl Gibson can create an organization that spreads the best ideas for the 99% and reports on those candidates, local, state and national, who support them. Video documentaries could unpack the hypocrisy of republican and obamacan parties, offer action plans from the commons to reveal common sense solutions to change our political economy. Already existing independent media sources like Democracy NOW!, The Real News Network and GRITtv, to name a few, might be willing to incorporate a few short clips into their news reports. A “Super Unpac”, if you will.

  • joebhed

    So, here’s the question: Is the Green Party capable and worthy of leading this new discussion?
    I just attended the FedUp100 gathering in DC and there were people from the Greens in attendance, including a MD. congressional candidate.
    The Green Party is the only modern alternative party to adopt a “public money” plank in their platform strategy.
    But that’s like a lot of other political party “planks”, being ignored right now when it is so important.
    Where is the Green Party leadership on the ideals that are evolving?
    The Green’s monetary policy position is a winner among the Ninety-nine Percent and the wealth-redistributors.
    And the silence from the Greens on moving the “economy” forward is deafening.
    The left is in NEED of recognizing that economic growth ITSELF can be a good thing, just depending on the resource utilization involved.
    All of the Green-like peolpe out there should read Frederick Soddy.
    On the money question that founds the Green platform read “The Role of Money”. On the sustainability of the wealth production, given natural resource limitations, Read “The Bearing of Physical Science Upon State Stewardship”. Both are by Dr. Fredrick Soddy, Nobelist in Chemistry in the early part of the last century.
    For the Money System Common.
    Thanks.